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[00:02:01] My name is Anna Silk. For six seasons I played Bow on the Hit TV series Lost Girl.
[00:02:21] And my name is Rachel Scarston. For three seasons I played Tamsen.
[00:02:26] Welcome to the Lost Girl rewatch podcast. A show where we will look at all the episodes,
[00:02:31] share some behind the scenes stories and chat with some very special guests. On the show our
[00:02:37] relationship was sometimes rocky but in life our friendship is rock solid. We are so glad you
[00:02:46] are here to join us this trip down memory lane. We love that the family is back together again.
[00:02:52] Hello everybody. Welcome back to the Lost Girl rewatch podcast. This is podcast episode seven
[00:03:04] where we will be discussing season two episodes 13 and 14. And I'm very excited and I feel like
[00:03:11] I have come home because my co-host today for these episodes is the incredible Rick Howland.
[00:03:21] Yay, Rick. Hello. You're back. I'm back. And better than ever. And better than ever. Anytime. Anytime.
[00:03:28] Always available for you. Aw, thank you. It really does actually feel like coming home to me
[00:03:35] because it feels, I will always think that you're my grandfather on some level.
[00:03:41] But there's some family bond I feel like between us. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:03:49] So we're going to talk about those families where they have like, you know, where the aunt
[00:03:54] is actually younger than the nephew. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. But it works. Yeah.
[00:04:00] Where, you know, what would be, I can't even think of the math of it. My mother gave birth to you
[00:04:06] after or something like that. I can't work out anything. I can't work it out either.
[00:04:10] I can't work it out either. Yeah.
[00:04:11] So, yeah. But either way, your grandpa. Yeah.
[00:04:15] So we're going to talk about 13, mostly 13 and a little bit of 14. But 13,
[00:04:20] the title was Barrow Mets Trick Pressure. Yeah. Written by Steve Cochran.
[00:04:26] Directed by Paolo Barsman. And was this Paolo's first episode? Do you remember?
[00:04:32] I can't remember. I don't think it was his first episode, but it was his...
[00:04:37] Because I feel like I knew him before we started this episode.
[00:04:40] I know. Honestly, I wish I had the answer to this at my fingertips that I don't.
[00:04:43] I feel like it was one of his earliest ones if not his first. Yeah.
[00:04:47] Yeah. But I remember like, I remember feeling
[00:04:50] familiar with him when this episode started and being very excited that the fact that he was
[00:04:58] directing it because he's such a kind soul. I know.
[00:05:02] And we sat at the picnic table outside of that other studio that we had.
[00:05:07] It was not our usual studio, but somewhere else. I don't know.
[00:05:12] Right. The other... Somewhere in Ottobaco or something.
[00:05:15] Studio adjacent.
[00:05:16] Yeah. And sitting out on the picnic table and kind of talking about the scenes and whatnot.
[00:05:24] Paolo was like a composer on set. Yeah.
[00:05:27] You know what I mean? He almost... He'd even have his arms in the air while he was talking to
[00:05:31] crew. And you'd see him swooping his arms to describe something. He felt like a conductor.
[00:05:38] And he really was... He created a symphony around him, really.
[00:05:42] He was an incredible man. He does a lot of and is one of the,
[00:05:46] I believe executive producers of Winona Earp. So he has stayed in this world
[00:05:53] and brought so much to it. Yeah. So he was incredible. And I have to tell you that
[00:05:58] last year for one of our guests we had on Stephen Finney who is the network executive
[00:06:05] for everyone listening and watching, you'll hopefully remember Stephen.
[00:06:09] But when I asked him what his favorite episode was, he said this episode.
[00:06:13] Wow. Season two, episode 13 is the one he loved the most and is the most proud of.
[00:06:19] And rewatching it, I can see why we... This was our season two where we...
[00:06:25] This was... This is essentially a mid-season finale this episode.
[00:06:29] Because we then got the back nine and did 22 episodes. And this feels like a finale.
[00:06:35] It sure does. It feels like a big... Because it has the high stakes
[00:06:39] and it has the launching pad for something else. So how did you feel rewatching it?
[00:06:45] It was cool. I actually watched 14 first when I first looked at them because I watched them twice.
[00:06:49] But I watched 14 first because I was like,
[00:06:53] you know, I have a pretty good memory of 13 or at least an idealized fantastical memory of 13.
[00:07:01] Because it was like my episode. Totally.
[00:07:04] And 14, I was like, what the heck happened in 14?
[00:07:10] And so I was like, I watched that one. And then I was like, oh yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:07:17] Because Anthony is such a sweet guy. He was so nice.
[00:07:19] He's such a lovely guy. Fantastic actor too. Yes, fantastic.
[00:07:22] Yeah, totally. And he was perfect as that character, as that kind of quirky, rich,
[00:07:29] inventor type. Arrogant but likable.
[00:07:33] Oh, totally. And just kind of down to earth even though he was kind of arrogant.
[00:07:39] But as a dude, hanging out with him at a Tiff thing and stuff, he was such a nice guy.
[00:07:46] And yeah, it was just fun to watch him do that character.
[00:07:52] Because he's really introduced into 14 in a big way. That's really where Beau and he meet.
[00:07:58] I mean, they meet in another episode. I think it's the end of 12 actually.
[00:08:02] Yeah, it's your birthday party or something. Yes, the birthday party.
[00:08:04] Exactly. He gives me a gift. But this is where 14 is where that relationship starts to develop.
[00:08:12] So which is an important and feels like a new beginning, like a new season almost.
[00:08:18] And we needed to kind of after the height and intensity of 13 to kind of
[00:08:23] bring the levels down a bit to start into this new arc for the last part of that season.
[00:08:29] So 13 to me felt so big and so epic and it looked so beautiful.
[00:08:35] It did. It looked great. And the FX, the special effects were like his.
[00:08:40] The Grudest Firewings. Wings. I wrote wings and big letters here. They were perfect. I know.
[00:08:47] They were like so and they described them to.
[00:08:53] You know, as you're saying about Pablo conducting, he was describing the wings to Raul and me.
[00:09:01] Yeah, Raul who plays the Geruda who played the Geruda and who so he could feel it as he
[00:09:09] presented himself to me and so that I would know what I was reacting to.
[00:09:13] Right. And it was like seeing those again. It was like, wow,
[00:09:19] like that's so much better than the Sirocot.
[00:09:22] The sword. Right. Yes.
[00:09:24] The sword that came out of your hand in season one.
[00:09:27] We're both like staring going, what are we doing?
[00:09:29] Yeah. What are we looking at? It's like we both look at it at different times.
[00:09:34] Yeah, I know.
[00:09:34] And it was just like we didn't. Yeah.
[00:09:37] But actually, I loved all your gadgets in this episode too. Like I wrote here,
[00:09:41] like I love you looking like you we first see you. You look up from your desk and you're wearing
[00:09:45] that monocle. Man, that thing hurt.
[00:09:48] Oh, it was great. It was worth it.
[00:09:50] Hard leather, like really hard leather and staples. Like, you know those like leather staples?
[00:09:57] Like so that I was like totally afraid when I took it off that it would like lead this like
[00:10:01] big dent across my forehead.
[00:10:05] Well, you looked comfortable in it.
[00:10:08] Yes. Well, you know, we must one must act when one must have to.
[00:10:12] Exactly. No, but I loved all your gadgets in that. And then we see like you hooked up to the blood
[00:10:18] stuff, you know, like all of those were so cool to see.
[00:10:23] Because they're so old timey and so but they have so much like they have their
[00:10:28] own presence in the episode.
[00:10:29] Oh, totally.
[00:10:30] In a big way.
[00:10:31] No, I yeah. I mean, it's like steampunk. That's the genre that I can think of that is now kind of
[00:10:40] or that was then or is now.
[00:10:44] We don't know what cool these days.
[00:10:45] Yeah, I don't know what cool people are doing anymore.
[00:10:49] I'm an old man now.
[00:10:51] We don't understand cool anymore.
[00:10:54] No, not in the same way. It's a different kind of cool now.
[00:10:58] Yes.
[00:10:58] It's like a martini and a cigar kind of cool.
[00:11:01] Yeah.
[00:11:02] But yeah, I made a note of that too.
[00:11:09] He says spark me up and then like or light me up.
[00:11:12] Was it light me up or spark me up?
[00:11:14] Spark me up.
[00:11:15] And then like that whole little sequence was like it was just very cool.
[00:11:23] I was like, oh, that's very it was very filmic. It had like it had a real momentum to it that just
[00:11:29] that little sequence. I love that little sequence.
[00:11:31] Yeah.
[00:11:33] And again, it was directed so beautifully and like it takes you into this world of this
[00:11:39] this where you go when you're under that kind of trance or whatever.
[00:11:44] Well, I think that's the thing too right in television.
[00:11:46] I don't think I think there's a lot of times when directors don't get an opportunity to
[00:11:50] kind of like shine and do their thing because the show is well established and
[00:11:56] the characters know their characters and the script is written and it's really the show
[00:12:00] runner who's kind of like making sure everything matches from last season episode to the next
[00:12:05] episode and all the whole total arc and everything else.
[00:12:09] But like again, at Testament to Paolo's directing to be able to kind of find a
[00:12:15] moment and go, I'm going to make this really slick.
[00:12:19] Yeah. And tell the stories here like there's a story here.
[00:12:23] And again, the FX guys with the smoke going down the tube and changing color and like again,
[00:12:29] they did a really good job. My special effects and then hardcore whatever it's what's it called
[00:12:34] on set FX guys like the smoke coming out when they pulled the plug and tried to get me out.
[00:12:40] You know, the three of us. I love that sequence. Like I mean,
[00:12:44] Me too.
[00:12:44] It was that this episode was like you and me. It was my story and your story.
[00:12:50] Yes, it was.
[00:12:51] And I really, I really liked that. And I like I love the fact that we had we had like
[00:12:56] the check-ins on the phone calls and stuff. It was it was really cool.
[00:13:00] It was really cool.
[00:13:01] I always know when when Steve Cochran has written an episode who he wrote this
[00:13:09] episode whenever I see his name at the top of the script.
[00:13:11] I mean, I love look, we love all the writers. All of them like did so much.
[00:13:17] And but Steve Cochran, whenever I knew I was going to get the bow from Steve Cochran,
[00:13:25] there was a party that went yes because he always wrote her so unbelievably strong.
[00:13:32] I know Bo was always strong.
[00:13:33] Yeah.
[00:13:34] But there was something about Steve's bow that made me a little more
[00:13:41] like with my chin up a little bit more.
[00:13:43] And when I hear lines like I wrote them down,
[00:13:45] I'm going to knock the lucky charms out of him and nothing for nothing.
[00:13:49] I'm like that's Steve Cochran because those are to me, those are so like a newfound land
[00:13:54] because he's from Newfoundland.
[00:13:55] Those that kind of talk is kind of how he's talked.
[00:14:00] Nothing for nothing.
[00:14:01] Yeah.
[00:14:01] Yeah, nothing for nothing.
[00:14:02] I'm going to knock the lucky charms out of him.
[00:14:04] Like it's just anyway, but I like all of that.
[00:14:07] And I think something else that I noted in this episode for me was that I think that's the first
[00:14:15] and I believe the only time I fired a gun on the show because I fire that gun in the hotel room.
[00:14:23] Right?
[00:14:23] Am I in the right right episode?
[00:14:25] Yes, I am.
[00:14:25] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:14:26] Yes.
[00:14:26] Yeah, because I was going to ask you what you like.
[00:14:27] And I hate firing a gun.
[00:14:29] I hate it.
[00:14:29] Yeah, yeah, no for sure.
[00:14:30] I've done other shows where I'm like firing machine guns.
[00:14:33] I don't like it at all.
[00:14:35] It's just not my thing.
[00:14:36] But firing that gun, like first of all, all my high school friends, three of my high school
[00:14:41] friends and all of my high school friends were there that day.
[00:14:43] They came to set that day to watch.
[00:14:46] And so I've got this gun and where I'm firing the gun, if you can see what I could see, it's
[00:14:55] people with all these protective gear and everyone's clear.
[00:14:59] And I have to fire it in a certain space because if it hits someone, it's not a real
[00:15:03] bullet, but it could hurt somebody.
[00:15:06] Right?
[00:15:06] It's a lot of stress.
[00:15:09] I don't like it.
[00:15:09] It's a lot of responsibility and a lot of stress, and it has a lot of force to it.
[00:15:13] So not my favorite thing, but it was interesting to see.
[00:15:18] And that set up like Bo even just going into that room where she meets herself or the
[00:15:24] dude.
[00:15:26] I looked at that set and I was like, you know, that was just a hallway with
[00:15:30] a vending machine and a hotel room.
[00:15:32] And that was built in a studio, like our secondary studio.
[00:15:36] And it makes you realize like, I mean, I always was aware of this, but like how hard a crew works
[00:15:44] to create something that's going to be used for a few moments on screen.
[00:15:51] How much has come together to create that look?
[00:15:54] Yeah.
[00:15:55] Then you have to show up and you better freaking show up ready to go.
[00:16:01] Like that's how I always felt as a performer.
[00:16:04] People have worked so hard for what you're about to do, so do it.
[00:16:09] You better be ready to go.
[00:16:10] No, totally.
[00:16:11] It's so disrespectful to not be, I think, did to not be like totally prepared for it for your day.
[00:16:17] For your day.
[00:16:17] And then it's like if you're like, oh man, yeah.
[00:16:20] So what's, you know, you can get befuddled.
[00:16:24] You can totally get confused.
[00:16:25] You can be tired.
[00:16:26] You can be burnt out.
[00:16:27] You can drop a line by accident or whatever.
[00:16:29] Of course.
[00:16:29] You can always come back and get it, but like be ready.
[00:16:33] Yeah.
[00:16:33] Be prepared.
[00:16:34] Be ready.
[00:16:34] Show up.
[00:16:34] Show up.
[00:16:35] Yeah.
[00:16:35] And show up.
[00:16:36] Yeah.
[00:16:36] But yeah, even just seeing that hallway, I was like, God, they worked so hard to build
[00:16:38] that hallway and I just walked down it.
[00:16:41] You know?
[00:16:42] But I walked down it.
[00:16:44] Yeah, exactly.
[00:16:45] Damn it.
[00:16:47] But oh, okay, so there's a few things I want to talk about though for you and your character.
[00:16:53] One is, okay, which one do I want to talk about first?
[00:16:56] Let me think.
[00:16:57] Actually, yeah, I want to talk about her first.
[00:16:58] One is all your stuff with Y Lin.
[00:17:02] She was incredible.
[00:17:04] First of all, I laughed out loud.
[00:17:06] I almost did a spit take when you say she was much prettier before she got into drugs.
[00:17:11] Actually, I heard that line and I was like, that's terrible.
[00:17:13] What a terrible thing to say, Trick.
[00:17:15] What a terrible thing to say, Trick.
[00:17:16] But also because like-
[00:17:17] That's Steve Galkin again.
[00:17:18] Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:17:20] But also like, you know, she was still really beautiful.
[00:17:23] I mean, she was a beautiful character even though she's a-
[00:17:25] But Kyra Harper, the actor.
[00:17:27] Yeah.
[00:17:28] And she was awesome.
[00:17:29] She was an incredible actor.
[00:17:30] She's an incredible actor.
[00:17:31] Yeah.
[00:17:31] Good God.
[00:17:32] Yeah.
[00:17:33] And I love her nails, like just that clicking and I love her power is to get people to speak the truth.
[00:17:39] Like it's so incredible.
[00:17:41] Yeah, she had to wear those contact lenses to look like she had cataracts and stuff and she was like,
[00:17:46] you know, I was like so great to see you.
[00:17:48] She's like, I think I can see you.
[00:17:50] Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:50] Because like the contacts were so blurry and-
[00:17:53] I know.
[00:17:53] And then her nails like, yeah, long nails that she worked out-
[00:17:57] Makes that sound with.
[00:17:58] Make them crack and it was like, oh.
[00:18:01] I know.
[00:18:02] I thought the scenes between the two of you were so incredible and I love that she-
[00:18:07] You know, she's going to give you what was it you came for?
[00:18:09] Something very specific.
[00:18:11] The vermin.
[00:18:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
[00:18:13] That's the title of the episode but-
[00:18:15] And she's gonna-
[00:18:17] The price is three questions or whatever.
[00:18:20] Yeah, four questions, yeah.
[00:18:21] Four questions.
[00:18:22] Sorry, I'm getting this all wrong but-
[00:18:24] But it's-
[00:18:25] I love that price because it-
[00:18:28] It's such a-
[00:18:29] It shows such-
[00:18:30] It was such a great moment for you as Trick to show a more vulnerable side.
[00:18:36] Yeah, totally.
[00:18:37] Totally to talk about my wife and stuff like that.
[00:18:39] Yes.
[00:18:40] It was cool too is like I kind of wished I'd actually picked up on that before.
[00:18:44] She says, I only had one lover who wore sandalwood behind his ears.
[00:18:49] Yeah.
[00:18:49] And I was like, why didn't I pick up on that?
[00:18:51] I should have started wearing sandalwood because like I mean-
[00:18:54] Like as the kind of method move.
[00:18:57] Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:57] But that would be like one of those things where it's like okay, that's
[00:19:01] what I smell like to people as the character.
[00:19:05] And I would have-
[00:19:06] I should have-
[00:19:07] I feel-
[00:19:08] Also I love sandalwood.
[00:19:10] But there you go.
[00:19:11] Yeah, it's nice.
[00:19:12] So I wish I had caught me more but I was like-
[00:19:18] But also she's like it was in 1419 and it's like that's the first time I think that
[00:19:24] they talk about like how potentially how old I actually am.
[00:19:28] Yeah.
[00:19:28] You know, I mean I always figured I was like 2000 or 1500 and like I know Dyson was like in the
[00:19:35] 500s or something like that and I was much older than him.
[00:19:40] So you know but I mean it's a hard to-
[00:19:43] It's like in the Fey world we're all adults well almost all of us
[00:19:46] were adults except for like the Nairn or Nor-
[00:19:48] Nairn?
[00:19:49] The rake Nain Rouge.
[00:19:51] Nain Rouge.
[00:19:52] Yeah Nain Rouge.
[00:19:53] But you know the majority of us are already grown adults but it's like so you know you grow from
[00:19:59] zero to 30 something maybe and then you just stay there.
[00:20:03] Stop yeah.
[00:20:04] And then you just you're like 300, 500, 800, 2000 years old.
[00:20:09] But yeah I was just-
[00:20:12] I loved her stories that she you know and again a tip of the hat to Steve for writing
[00:20:19] those like really like that image her and I in the rain in front of this war of battle thing and
[00:20:30] like-
[00:20:31] You could see all of it.
[00:20:32] I could see it yeah and I mean again Kira Kira saying it in such a way that telling it
[00:20:38] you know that painted that picture for the audience and for me and like yeah no I you
[00:20:43] know watching that scene the first time again in a very long time I got chills.
[00:20:49] Yeah me too.
[00:20:50] Oh good I got chills.
[00:20:51] I got chills for my own acting what a surprise that is.
[00:20:54] I think that's a great surprise and I think it's a great thing to experience I mean it's
[00:20:58] it's what's been so interesting to rewatch this whole series for me frankly is to go
[00:21:02] because honestly season two I forget so much of in terms of story and I'm just like
[00:21:07] for some reason I remember season one better.
[00:21:09] Well season two was jam packed.
[00:21:12] It was jam packed.
[00:21:13] It was fast we were moving the truck along.
[00:21:16] Yeah exactly and we shot two like we shot what normally is two seasons.
[00:21:21] In one yeah totally.
[00:21:22] Yeah in one day one year.
[00:21:24] So yeah so I loved Ylan and all of that.
[00:21:29] I also it's so interesting that this is the season or this is the episode where
[00:21:34] Hale discovers you're the blood king.
[00:21:36] Right like I love that.
[00:21:37] But he's like wait what?
[00:21:39] He also you know Casey did a really great job in this episode of like there was a couple of
[00:21:48] beats there was a couple of times when I can't remember who was speaking but the one was when
[00:21:54] Dyson's breaking up with Chiara because he doesn't love her anymore at the end.
[00:21:59] But like or he never could really he could ever love her.
[00:22:02] Yeah but Casey so good at playing a moment oh and you when you
[00:22:10] I I tell you to stand down yeah against Lachlan in my layer and the shot is
[00:22:20] in front of Casey and he's standing facing the camera and then we're back we're back behind him
[00:22:24] and we're having our little tefante and and he he's like and you can feel how uncomfortable
[00:22:32] he is that we're having that conversation in front of him.
[00:22:36] And there's a there was a couple of moments in this episode like three of them I think
[00:22:41] where he had to play that.
[00:22:43] Yeah and it's also easy I could totally feel him like oh gee that's I'm not I shouldn't be
[00:22:51] how do I get out of here you know like it was great.
[00:22:54] It was great and it comes from that realization of him
[00:22:57] of Hale realizing that the depth of the relationship between bow and trick.
[00:23:03] You know like it's deeper than he thought and yeah and it will even go even deeper you know like it's
[00:23:11] well his whole world got turned upside down.
[00:23:14] I mean yeah I think you know to not know that I was the blood king
[00:23:18] and he's like like I'm surprised there wasn't more previous to that of him going to Dyson's
[00:23:22] like what like Kiaris says to him it's like why are you paying so much attention to this
[00:23:27] barkeep.
[00:23:30] He's a bartender you're a cop like what's the deal yeah well actually you know he was like
[00:23:35] the king.
[00:23:36] Like super powerful and yeah okay the other thing we have to talk about obviously is the drive-in
[00:23:42] because that whole thing first of all I wanted you to talk about your experience of shooting it
[00:23:48] I'm guessing it was a night shoot because you need a lot of hours there.
[00:23:52] How did you film it how did you film the stuff that was up on the screen where was that filmed
[00:23:57] how was that done um till I wrote here tell us about it tell us about your wife who is incredible
[00:24:04] just I want to hear about the whole experience because it was incredible.
[00:24:08] Yeah it was really interesting I don't remember if we shot them uh I think we shot the drive-in
[00:24:15] like what's on the screen it was at Scarborough Bluffs.
[00:24:20] Oh I remember you guys going to Scarborough yeah that's right yeah um so we had a beach we were
[00:24:25] on a beach and it was raining and the beach flooded and they had like gang plank walks for us to get to
[00:24:34] where they wanted us to be on set and like you know the camera sinking in the sand and and like
[00:24:40] but then the the bluffs behind us kind of the rocky bluffs and then Lake Ontario all and it was
[00:24:46] like perfect for it it was all foggy it was rainy it had mood really cold oh god I know
[00:24:55] I can feel the cold yeah yeah and so and like I mean like summer wear like a t-shirt of course
[00:25:01] my sleeves rolled up and I'm like walk it on the beach to order and um but yeah so that was
[00:25:08] I think I feel like we shot that after we shot the drive-in sequence which again it's like
[00:25:15] unfortunate in the way but also it allowed it allowed to kind of be more prepared for that moment
[00:25:25] when so in the right so you you shot the the Scarborough drive-in in the dark in the
[00:25:31] with the Gruda first I think okay and then we went later and did you have to do they show
[00:25:38] you that to match it again because you guys are pretty mad they must I mean I think they did like
[00:25:46] I mean I think that I don't think it would have mattered either way which you shot first you know
[00:25:50] as long as you can see the lips and the and the kind of angle and the gesture and yeah on them
[00:25:57] right it was like yeah yeah between oh what was the name what was the name of our continuity
[00:26:01] person um Karen Karen lovely and so good at her job um so she was like instrumental in all of that
[00:26:10] in terms of like where we were positioned in the camera angles yeah her and Paolo you know
[00:26:16] working all that out and it didn't really have to you know all we had to do is get to the same
[00:26:20] emotional place or even more so but I that's what I was gonna say it's like doing the drive-in
[00:26:25] that arranged part the driving drive-in part first um because it was built with all this intensity of
[00:26:35] like you know it's in the dark it's the Gruda what am I doing I'm in the trance whereas that
[00:26:42] in the drive-in like on the screen was like the memory and so it was it could it could live
[00:26:52] in an even softer place and not not a like place where the drive-in had to kind of live and um
[00:27:02] and so having had done that already then the the comfort of like oh I know what I have to do here
[00:27:07] I know what I have to do and I know what like you know I have to turn a little bit here and
[00:27:11] I have to run the blade on my hand on this line and then she's got to touch my face on this
[00:27:17] line I got to touch her face on that line and da da da da but I mean Allison is like
[00:27:25] from the first take till the whenever take like she's letter perfect like I mean
[00:27:32] she's she's great and she's really connected to her emotions like I mean you know to connect to me
[00:27:39] and I mean I just for both those scenes it was just like oh I just all I have to do is look at her and
[00:27:47] listen to what she's saying to me and react to that of like you know um there were a couple of
[00:27:54] moments like watching it where I was like I lost my kingliness in that moment and I should have
[00:28:00] had a little more you know but I was afraid of the Gruda blah blah blah yeah so you know
[00:28:06] but you kind of like look at scenes and go oh I wish like if you wanted to get like kind of
[00:28:11] microsurgical on it as looking at yourself and going oh I wish I'd I had a hint and I you know
[00:28:18] I don't know you know other people watching it might go oh no that was like totally whatever
[00:28:23] where yeah where it needs to be it is weird to watch yourself yeah but to kind of go oh I
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[00:29:48] so I hear you she was brilliant and like it was really easy to do that stuff with her
[00:29:54] and to recreate those moments each time and to create that that life together and and then to feel
[00:30:06] you know that it was the Garuda actually pulling the strings and it wasn't her and
[00:30:11] I'd like to take me to take myself out of that that moment to that moment was it was great
[00:30:18] it was easy with her it was easy with with Raul as well like you know he was incredible it was very
[00:30:23] easy to be terrified of the man it was very easy to be he's a tall imposing gentleman lovely sweetheart
[00:30:31] of a guy um and like it was just like okay I can I can easily be afraid of this person like that
[00:30:39] easily yeah no he's like very he's he's got this very imposing energy but yeah but in a lovely
[00:30:45] way in real life but yeah no it yeah he's like he's got he's such a spiritual dude like there was
[00:30:52] such this it's like he's like Arizona I mean like if you travel through Arizona and those
[00:31:00] those layered rocks like in the like in the road runner uh wiley coyote scenes like there are
[00:31:07] those rocks he is like that's perfect and that vibe that I get going through driving through
[00:31:12] Arizona of those those rock formations and like you can see the billions of years of crushed layers
[00:31:19] and different colors and and it's just like what a compliment we should we got to get that message
[00:31:24] to him because he's not Sedona Sedona is a little too hippie-dippy he's Arizona because
[00:31:28] it's got a bit of danger and crust you know but there's just like deep wealth of like a
[00:31:37] swelling of energy you know like I feel I feel like really bizarrely at home in two places in the world
[00:31:47] Arizona and in that rock formation he kind of plays in that area there's like this
[00:31:53] real grounding grounding like homeland feeling and in South Africa in Cape Town amazing like those
[00:32:03] two places I'm like ooh it's like ancient I've been here before feeling whatever that is so he was
[00:32:10] like the perfect choice he was the Garuda from like ancient like a millennia ago in the fair world
[00:32:18] but had been biding his time you know and yeah so um no he was phenomenal um and yeah I love
[00:32:27] the I love thinking of people as states like Arizona he's perfect the other thing in the
[00:32:32] drive-in I just remembered yeah I had I had a rock because David Green like he had to shoot it right
[00:32:43] and it had to be a really wide shot and and so there was my feet in in in frame at all times
[00:32:50] because it was all really big big landscape kind of shots and you know I had my first mark
[00:32:57] then for the people who don't know about you know you have a mark where you start
[00:33:01] you actually have a standing point that's you know my tape was green
[00:33:04] they put a little little mark on the floor now mine was red you were red yeah we
[00:33:09] everyone's got a different color yeah yeah because like I mean I'm sure do you remember
[00:33:13] somebody took a picture of the marks on the floor yes for the original sin because everybody was
[00:33:19] in the room at the same time we had to all move around each other and so like it was a
[00:33:24] kaleidoscope of color on the floor from all these little tape squares so anyway I couldn't have
[00:33:33] they couldn't put like a mark on the on the ground in the drive-in because the camera would see this
[00:33:39] green piece of tape right and so he found me a rock that was like a light color lighter color
[00:33:45] than every other rock and he put that there where my spot was so he's like find your rock
[00:33:51] so I go back to my rock and I'd stand at my rock and then action and I walk toward the diner and
[00:33:58] toward the drive-in screen or whatever or toward her yeah but yeah I love that I love I mean we
[00:34:06] we make it work if you can't have a mark you use a rock or a sandbag or whatever it is like
[00:34:11] something your toe has to find sometimes yeah yeah now the night shoots it was all night long
[00:34:15] and the special effects of the truck was a practical which is the word I was trying to remember earlier
[00:34:23] of the car explosion actually blowing out windows and stuff and watching that and going
[00:34:28] oh cool okay I can react to that I know and when your body's normally asleep now you're like
[00:34:34] watching a car explode yeah and you're like okay night shoes are night shoes are no joke they're
[00:34:38] hard on you I mean they're they're good but it kind of like you know you get tired of course
[00:34:43] and all those things but there's like a bit of magic around it too oh absolutely like a pritchiness
[00:34:48] that kind of clicks in at like three o'clock in the morning in the ham sandwich sitting on here
[00:34:52] on top of the punchy this different vibration around them yeah um in those kinds of shoots but
[00:34:58] and then we're all tired in the morning I know then you want coffee you were supposed to go home
[00:35:01] to bed and you're like but now I want coffee um anyway okay so yes so that no these I mean the
[00:35:08] the drive-in stuff was incredible it's so interesting to me just realizing as we're talking about
[00:35:12] this episode I mean I can see why this is Stephen Finney's favorite episode and and I have to say it's
[00:35:17] probably one of the best in the whole series I would I would agree with him because we're able to
[00:35:24] talk about it it has generated this conversation between us in rewatching it there's it was a
[00:35:30] very rich episode the writing the lighting the direction the performances the just the
[00:35:35] storytelling was so good you know and so yeah it covered so much in so little time you know it did
[00:35:44] everybody everybody got a little story in there everybody like every character got a little bit
[00:35:50] of story from everybody even like right because it opens with you and Zoe and she's borrowing
[00:35:55] your car and there's that whole like you know oh crap Nadia's back yeah and like she's a lake
[00:36:03] from the coma yes um and it was also ways to kind of like I mean obviously they go on a road trip because
[00:36:10] that storyline needs to be abandoned for a few minutes so that Bo can then go to Lachlan you
[00:36:16] know and then what happens by the end of that is that he you know Lachlan asks Bo to be his
[00:36:21] champion and that's what we're going to go into the next nine episodes of going after the
[00:36:25] Geruda and all of that kind of stuff this is where Vincent and I had our famous sword fight
[00:36:31] which we've already talked about on the podcast which oh my god but we talked about it like we had
[00:36:35] like half a day to rehearse like shooting it for us was not awesome because we felt like we had these
[00:36:41] big like heavy swords but when I rewatched it I was like you know what it actually looks really
[00:36:46] good we also had incredible doubles right Casey Hudecky was my double yeah I forget the man
[00:36:53] stuntman that was Vincent's double but he was because I'd never actually met him before but
[00:36:57] he was incredible like they could it's not her husband eh because he did a lot no and he's no
[00:37:03] I don't know I know him no no it wasn't him okay he's a really nice guy he's a super nice guy yeah
[00:37:09] something behind the scenes I just want to share with people because I saw it in this episode
[00:37:13] and I thought oh I should tell people this when Bo goes into the Lachlan's lair and she like
[00:37:18] drops in you see her drop in through the ceiling it's a tiny moment yeah and then
[00:37:23] she pops up and goes for people for behind the scenes stories that's called a western switch
[00:37:30] what we did there so it was my stunt double dropping down and I was crouched down so Jen
[00:37:38] my stunt double drops in and then I pop up and walk and do all my stuff so it's called a western
[00:37:44] switch I just thought people would like to hear that it's cool it happens a lot where we have
[00:37:49] to kind of do that yeah especially in westerns it's very western apparently yeah um and then
[00:37:58] another thing that's just interesting is you know Lachlan and I start our sword fight in his lair
[00:38:02] and then we burst through the doors and we keep it going onto this big long table well that's two
[00:38:06] different locations two different days so it it it's just interesting I think to tell people
[00:38:11] this because it looks like it's all one big sequence it's not we started in one location
[00:38:15] and burst out in we were in the studio so we burst out into a hallway of nothing and then we burst into
[00:38:20] University of Toronto location where we're sword fighting where the big table is yeah where the
[00:38:26] big table is exactly um and yeah I like the relationship that's beginning to develop between
[00:38:34] Bo and Lachlan because that's gonna kind of take us into the next little bit of the the season
[00:38:45] and yeah it we said it already but it is like a mid-season finale and then we we come back with
[00:38:52] episode 14 which was called Midnight Midnight Lamp Jeremy Boxen wrote it and David Winning
[00:38:59] directed it did you ever work with David well you did because you were in this episode
[00:39:02] yeah did you work with him yeah he was really fun before no he was he had a lot of really good
[00:39:09] energy but this is where we meet uh Ryan in a big way and that relationship was really interesting
[00:39:15] for Bo because he he throws her off her game you know so it's it's really important to kind
[00:39:23] of have something have her have a different focus for a little while and Lauren Holly was the
[00:39:29] guest star it was really cool to work with her um yeah she brought a lot of um well sexiness to that
[00:39:37] yeah really yes yeah no she was wonderful very good character um I remember a couple of things
[00:39:45] about we go into Bo goes into Ryan's like workshop and I know the inspiration for that workshop was
[00:39:51] supposed to be like Iron Man yeah totally yeah totally yeah what's his name Iron Man yeah
[00:39:56] yes yeah yeah Robert Downey Jr's kind of space um and then what's really funny I think I've told
[00:40:02] this story at cons before is that you know how the there's the scene between Bo the main
[00:40:08] open in sequence between Bo and Ryan there where at the end he she says something like I think
[00:40:13] you've started a fire and he's like down below or something and she's like no over there
[00:40:18] over there well there was a fire on set that day for real oh well so I was doing a scene
[00:40:25] that probably maybe not that scene it was maybe a bit earlier or something and I went
[00:40:29] guys fluffy's on fire so fluffy was Mr. Fluffy got on fire so Mr. Fluffy was David Green our DP
[00:40:36] he had this big wall of light that everyone called Mr. Fluffy and Fluffy would get and we
[00:40:42] loved Fluffy because Fluffy made us all look so darn good Mr. Fluffy had his own Facebook
[00:40:46] page he had his birthday his own birthday and I think it was a big inspiration was Craig as well the LX
[00:40:53] yes who dude I think like you know built it up with David yeah well fluffy caught on fire for real
[00:41:00] in that space and I was the one seeing it because everybody was looking my way because we were
[00:41:05] lit for me company I was looking this way and I went at Mr. Fluffy and then I was like oh my god
[00:41:13] I had to go over and they had to put Fluffy out and luckily just his corners were singed
[00:41:16] I don't know how that fire started but it did it did it did start for real which is you know
[00:41:22] scary but yeah so let me see has a real oh yeah I wrote down here that I thought like when they
[00:41:30] introduced Ryan and they kind of because we leave 13 it's so heavy and like rich in
[00:41:36] fair history and things like that we come into 14 and I feel like there's a bit of a sitcom vibe to
[00:41:42] it yeah you know like the quick repartee between Bo and Ryan and he's really throwing her off and
[00:41:48] she's kind of keeping up with him you don't usually see Bo trying to keep up with anyone
[00:41:52] yeah so it's interesting that he comes in kind of pulling her um Dyson goes back to the
[00:41:58] Norn in this episode yeah which is really pretty powerful do you have any idea what what kind of
[00:42:04] timeline difference was from because like from 213 to 214 like in terms of the fey world like
[00:42:14] it wasn't the next day it wasn't the next moment like it felt it felt like it was but then
[00:42:20] it didn't feel like it was I think because like at the end of 13 Bo says like
[00:42:24] uh kenzie goes on a road trip with Nate right that's right the next morning who I have to say
[00:42:29] like when he sings that song to her it's so beautiful yeah you know Aaron was so great and
[00:42:36] no I remember saying something like I practiced that I went home and I wrote a little you know
[00:42:40] I yeah and he created it and it's like that's he did that's cool I think so yeah oh my god well
[00:42:46] he certainly practiced it if somebody else had written it he he made it he made it work
[00:42:50] yeah um it was it was so he was so great but yeah but kenzie leaves with him
[00:42:54] and so like Bo or Lauren leaves she leaves like we had to get rid of get rid of we had to uh create
[00:43:02] space for that's a better way to say it uh some new stuff to be told to kind of then bring the
[00:43:07] group back together and then you know work that all that stuff out so but I like how um
[00:43:13] it had a bit of a sitcom feel to it totally what did I write here about you I said
[00:43:20] trick you are helping Dyson inhale what does that mean Anna why you need to write a better note than
[00:43:25] that what was happening I was like giving uh you know I tell them about my what happened in the
[00:43:34] in the vision in the vision right right um and uh yeah seemingly coming out rather unscathed by at all
[00:43:45] uh it was interesting because like yeah no I and then and but Chris is actually broken up about
[00:43:52] what happened with him with the with Waylin yes yes the Ludo on and what that what the Norn tells
[00:44:00] him that he can't he can't love Chiara and so that was his his like arc for those couple of episodes
[00:44:05] totally it was very personal for him everything was very personal and I loved actually the
[00:44:10] the last scene between Chiara and Dyson where their relationship has to come to an end
[00:44:14] they were so wonderful in that scene and such beautiful performances and it was sad yeah it was
[00:44:20] very sad sad yeah um especially when she turns she goes trick hail you knew yeah I know we didn't
[00:44:32] know so you know but still you still feel bad because it's like somebody's heart is breaking
[00:44:37] in front of you and it's like yeah I know no it was it was great and so so yeah 14 really spring
[00:44:44] boards us into what is to come in the rest of season two which was an exciting season for us
[00:44:51] yeah do you have any like general memories of season two or how how you felt like coming
[00:44:55] back after the success of season one
[00:45:00] um I remember being aware that they were gonna do like two thirteen uh when we started and so
[00:45:11] I was very excited about that like you knew that there was gonna be a trick a trick-focusing
[00:45:18] kind of thing yeah it's exciting yeah of course um I'm trying to remember now what you know it's
[00:45:26] so many episodes it's like I can't I don't have I don't have 28 hours to go through them all to
[00:45:31] watch them all but I kind of I kind of wanted to um because there's a lot of stuff that happened
[00:45:36] in the lair and stuff like a lot more gadgets and stuff like that yeah happened and like I love
[00:45:42] that stuff I love playing with those things like even though the mask that uh you know the
[00:45:46] thing was a little bit painful it's like I love those things and I love playing to them or playing
[00:45:51] with them on set and uh and like you know they they had like there was that one where we had to
[00:45:58] find it was like a fade GPS there was a map and we had a boiled egg and a compass that swung
[00:46:04] around yeah and it had to find the you know to find where the person was or whatever and uh
[00:46:10] they're like yeah yeah okay so we got you we got your coverage and everything like this way um we've
[00:46:15] got to just do a an insert of your hand going in I'm like okay great and they're like no you can go
[00:46:20] home and I'm like no no no it's gotta be my hand it can't be somebody else's hand I know no way there's
[00:46:25] times on the show where I can see it's supposed to be my hand at someone else's and it's not because
[00:46:30] I was like I refuse to do my own hand acting it's literally because of location and schedule
[00:46:34] and timing and whatever like they got this insert oh we can pick it up at this moment
[00:46:38] because we're here and Anna's not on set but so we'll just do it anyway let's do it here
[00:46:41] which I completely understand like of course they're trying to make a show we gotta get home
[00:46:45] we want to have a weekend but I can always tell when it's not me yeah it's not my hand or whatever it is
[00:46:53] well Rick this was awesome yeah always and like I mean I think I goes without saying but
[00:47:00] I'm gonna say it anyway like the the the Fey world and lost girl would not have been the same
[00:47:06] without Trick and Trick would not have been who he was without Rick Howland and that's just a fact
[00:47:12] and everyone knows that everyone listening and watching
[00:47:16] you're such a treasure to the show I really sincerely mean that and and you're my grandpa forever
[00:47:22] forever and ever I accept that thank you that's so nice and I agree and I said
[00:47:27] I would say the exact same thing about you I was actually watching I went on the podcasting
[00:47:32] yesterday and I watched the episode that you have with the oh my goodness her name is just
[00:47:40] left my brain she wrote why no no herp what Emily Emily oh my gosh I watched that episode with you and
[00:47:48] Emily and like it's totally true what you just said to me you know trick couldn't be without you
[00:47:56] like no one else could have played bow like you brought you know you had the the as as Emily says
[00:48:02] like you know the sexiness and the succubacy whatever qualities and all that but there was
[00:48:08] like this you know girl from New Brunswick who is from New Brunswick yeah well but but you know
[00:48:16] there's that quality in you of that of that you know lovely kind human being quality in there
[00:48:26] that you allowed to come through in the show and I think that was like what Emily said it's like
[00:48:32] there was that quality in you that people I think went in for you like that that was because
[00:48:40] there's the succubus part there's the part where it's like well of course she's a succubus that's
[00:48:44] what she has to do right but the other part was like what you brought in that that great that
[00:48:50] brought out the depth of the character and thank you yeah so thank you I mean that's the only
[00:48:57] way I could frame her really because if you just tell me that I'm a sex creature I will turn
[00:49:01] bright red and run away but yes no but that but that part was fun to play too I'm not gonna lie
[00:49:10] but yeah thank you Rick so much and thank you to everybody listening because we we do this for
[00:49:17] you guys and we are so happy to do this and I'm really happy you join me again and we will see
[00:49:24] you guys on the next one thank you for listening to this week's episode of the Lost Girl Rewatch
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