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[00:00:12] My name is Anna Silk. For six seasons, I played Bo on the hit TV series, Lost Girl.
[00:00:18] And my name is Rachel Scarston. For three seasons, I played Tamsin.
[00:00:23] Welcome to the Lost Girl Rewatch Podcast.
[00:00:25] A show where we will look at all the episodes, share some behind-the-scenes stories, and chat
[00:00:31] with some very special guests. On the show, our relationship was sometimes rocky.
[00:00:37] But in life, our friendship is rock solid. We are so glad you are here to join us this
[00:00:44] trip down memory lane. We love that the family is back together again.
[00:00:55] Welcome everybody to episode four of the Lost Girl Rewatch Podcast season three.
[00:01:00] Yeah, I'm Rachel. This is Anna. I played Tamsin, she played Bo, and we are here to discuss all
[00:01:07] things Lost Girl, slash whatever randomly comes to our mind. Whatever tangent we go off on.
[00:01:16] Yeah, so today we're talking about episode four, Fade to Black, written by Alexandra Zerouni,
[00:01:22] and directed by Ron Murphy. Oh, Ron.
[00:01:25] Was this? I mean, no. You know what? I just can't remember if we... I think Ron was in season two
[00:01:30] directing. Good God. I just can't remember.
[00:01:32] No, no, no. I know Ron was in season two. He was?
[00:01:34] No, maybe he wasn't because I actually have a behind-the-scenes photo that I want to have on
[00:01:41] the Instagram with you and Ron. Oh, really?
[00:01:44] Yeah. And I remember thinking, oh, he's not till later, but you know what? We should look that up.
[00:01:50] Yeah. Well, either way, this would be your first episode with Ron.
[00:01:54] Yes. It was definitely my first episode with Ron.
[00:01:56] Yes. And we open on this very intense love scene.
[00:02:01] Okay. So I know that in episode, I can't remember, two or three, I was like, man, that sex scene.
[00:02:07] I know.
[00:02:08] Forget everything I said.
[00:02:10] Yeah.
[00:02:11] This is where it's at.
[00:02:13] Yeah.
[00:02:13] Like, oh my gosh.
[00:02:14] Can I tell you?
[00:02:15] Oh my gosh.
[00:02:15] Okay. So Ron Murphy is...
[00:02:18] Beautifully shot.
[00:02:19] It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And Ron Murphy is such a visual director, right?
[00:02:23] He really likes to tell a story through pictures, which is essentially what a director does. But
[00:02:32] he really likes to really shape that. And I remember for Zoe and I filming this love scene,
[00:02:40] it was by far the easiest love scene we've ever filmed.
[00:02:45] Oh, wow. Really?
[00:02:46] And that I've ever filmed. Because it looks so beautiful and so connected. And, you know,
[00:02:54] Zoe and I are always connected. But the way that we shot it was in pictures. So it would be like,
[00:03:01] he had it boarded, like storyboarded so that it was like, you know, Zoe's stomach and my face near
[00:03:08] it. And action. And I would go in and just like, you know, caress my lips over her stomach and then
[00:03:14] pull out of frame and cut. But it was like, it was stunningly beautiful.
[00:03:19] Yes.
[00:03:20] And actually, the lighting was a little different.
[00:03:23] It was beautiful.
[00:03:24] Yes.
[00:03:24] In this episode. Like even, and this is fast forwarding a little bit, but when he's walking
[00:03:28] the tight rope, there's like a hue over it. It looks like there's like a filter over it. I
[00:03:34] noticed it the whole episode, a little bit more yellows and oranges.
[00:03:39] Warmer.
[00:03:39] Yeah. But it starts out with that scene. And I, it's, it's, it looks like a film. It's so beautiful.
[00:03:46] It does. It looks like a film.
[00:03:48] Yeah.
[00:03:48] But it was so like, I can remember being, I think it was me that has my arms up against the bed.
[00:03:54] Who can remember?
[00:03:54] I can remember it was either Zoe or it was, it was someone's arms. Maybe it was part of the crew.
[00:03:59] Everyone was hugging in this bedpost. No. But like, and then Zoe would come in and kiss my neck
[00:04:03] or something that was like, and then cut. So that's why like we filmed it into, in tiny pieces.
[00:04:08] So it was never like action. And then like, you're just like macking on each other for five minutes
[00:04:14] and then cut. It was, it was done in pieces and it worked so well. And I remember us kind of going
[00:04:19] like, I wonder if this is going to, what this is going to look like.
[00:04:22] Oh, it played.
[00:04:23] It played.
[00:04:23] Oh, it played. Ron Murphy. Check.
[00:04:27] Yeah.
[00:04:27] Win for Ron Murphy.
[00:04:29] That was a great opening.
[00:04:30] Yeah.
[00:04:31] Yes. And I love the end when they're both exhausted for very different reasons. Like,
[00:04:37] you know, Lauren is exhausted from all the sex that Bo is demanding and Bo is exhausted
[00:04:42] because she's not getting enough of it.
[00:04:43] Oh, and she's eating the like power bar.
[00:04:45] Yes.
[00:04:46] Yes.
[00:04:47] Um, so it's at this point, Alex starts watching the episode of my husband, for those of you
[00:04:53] who don't know, because I'm watching it downstairs in the evening and the guy, so he sees you eating
[00:05:00] the bar and he's like, what's wrong with Anna?
[00:05:04] I'm like, you're just going to have to watch and find out. And then, then it comes into like
[00:05:09] the guy wanting to walk the tightrope or whatever. Yeah.
[00:05:12] Alex goes, he's like, oh, this is going to be great.
[00:05:15] And he sits down and he's like in it for the episode.
[00:05:18] I love that. A new fan, a new fan.
[00:05:22] Yeah.
[00:05:23] Right away.
[00:05:24] Oh my God.
[00:05:26] Oh, because that's the thing. So with the, with the power bar. So after the guy dies all the time,
[00:05:33] he's like, no, really like, why is Anna eating a power bar? So I'm like, well, she's a succubus
[00:05:37] and she's not getting enough energy because she has a human lover.
[00:05:41] Like as I'm describing it, I'm realizing like it sounds nuts. And then he just like,
[00:05:46] he just did not understand what was happening. And I think he's like, okay, so like she gets energy
[00:05:53] from sex. And I was like, yes, essentially that is the bones of it. And then, and then I had to
[00:06:03] explain to him about because, you know, Dyson's fae or like, she feeds off fae. She can feed off
[00:06:08] fewer fae than more humans. It's like, I had to pause it to describe him.
[00:06:13] You had to get out a whiteboard and be like, okay, here.
[00:06:16] My question is actually, I want to ask everyone who's listening. Did you all start from the very
[00:06:24] beginning of Lost Girl or did anyone start watching in like season two or, and just have no idea what was
[00:06:33] going on, but then figure it out as you went? Because I, yeah, I don't know how you would
[00:06:39] have no idea. You would just, you wouldn't understand. No, no.
[00:06:42] Yeah. That's a good question.
[00:06:44] Yeah. Or maybe you just had a deep knowledge of mythology and got it all.
[00:06:48] Yeah. You just saw her eating and you're like, oh, she's a succubus.
[00:06:51] And maybe you went back and watched the earlier episodes, but like, did you, you know,
[00:06:55] catch it on TV one night and just start watching the app and
[00:06:58] And you're like, what? I need to know. Yeah. No. Good question. Let us know. Yeah. Um,
[00:07:03] I love Tamsin's like, I love Tamsin with the tightrope walker. She's so like live and let live.
[00:07:11] She wants to walk a tightrope. This is fantasy. Let him do it. Like she just doesn't,
[00:07:15] it's not that she doesn't care. It's like, she actually cares to support him.
[00:07:19] Yeah. Let him do it. Like, you know what I mean? It's not from her. It's a dark fae of her too.
[00:07:24] You know, you see why there's like dark and light fae. Because I also think that for Tamsin,
[00:07:31] one, she's a Valkyrie. She has a different understanding of like life and death, but two,
[00:07:36] because she's been alive for so many years that I think after a while, certain things you're
[00:07:43] desensitized to, you know, and I feel like Tamsin's just like, here we go. Like she's been in wars,
[00:07:48] you know? And she's just like, yeah, let him do what he wants.
[00:07:50] Like, look how happy he is. You know, let him do it. I also love like that, that Tamsin in this
[00:07:59] episode is, okay, wait, hang on. I, is this this episode? God, it must be. It is because you're
[00:08:08] very contrary to Dyson and Bo in this episode, right? But what I loved about it is that you never
[00:08:16] felt like you were contrary for the sake of being contrary. Like it didn't feel like, oh, let's make
[00:08:21] her just disagree with it. Like you still felt like you're this fully fleshed out character
[00:08:27] with a strong point of view, as opposed to like, well, when Dyson say this, Tamsin comes in and says
[00:08:33] this, cause some, you know how sometimes that can happen in writing, like they, they can lose the
[00:08:37] character and just get the, she's, she's against them, you know, but it was more than that. It was
[00:08:42] fully fleshed out. You were, you were fully, you had a strong point of view, which Tamsin does
[00:08:47] obviously, but it was just nice to see that maintained so strongly.
[00:08:51] Her contraryness isn't an investment in the other care. Like some of what she says, a lot of what
[00:08:58] Tamsin says is not really about the other person. It's just like, that's what she thinks.
[00:09:03] Yeah. She has such clear boundaries around life. Like she gets it. She gets exactly the path she's on.
[00:09:09] She just tells it like it is and keeps going forward.
[00:09:14] But speaking of, I made a note here because as I was watching this episode in particular,
[00:09:20] I really saw how Zoe and Chris's characters in particular are extraordinarily grounded characters
[00:09:31] in this show. And I, there's something about both of them. Like even, even Tamsin, like there's
[00:09:39] in their interactions with other characters, they are like this grounded force in the scene.
[00:09:45] And I don't, I was thinking like, is that their character or is that also just them and who they
[00:09:51] are? Because they both tend to have that effect. Like I find them both quite calming. I mean,
[00:09:55] for all they're very funny and like, whatever, they're also quite calming, but.
[00:10:00] I think they, I mean, they both have a strong sense of who they are, you know?
[00:10:05] Yeah.
[00:10:06] I mean, we can all be nervous messes too, but they, I think Zoe and Chris as people
[00:10:12] have a, a strong sense of who they are.
[00:10:16] Yeah. But they, yeah, I found them very grounding forces. And even in some of the scenes
[00:10:22] watching myself, like in the cop shop with Chris, I was like, man, Dyson is so like, yes.
[00:10:29] And Tamsin's like.
[00:10:32] But you, like what I just described about Tamsin is a, is, is a lot of how I see you in life too.
[00:10:38] Like you have clear boundaries around, like you're very open and kind, but you have clear boundaries
[00:10:47] around what you will and will not accept. That makes me sound like you fly off the handle. You don't,
[00:10:54] you have the ability to just walk away from something you find very full of bullshit. And you were able to do
[00:10:59] that in your twenties on set. And I'm sure you did it before I met you, but like, I remember you just like
[00:11:05] walking out of the makeup trailer.
[00:11:07] That's a work in progress.
[00:11:09] Whereas like, I was the opposite. I was like, is everyone here happy? Am I somehow responsible?
[00:11:14] If you're not, what could I do to fix me to make it better for you?
[00:11:19] You didn't like your breakfast? I'm so sorry.
[00:11:21] I'm so sorry. I'll be there. And I know we're rolling, but oh my God, this is terrible. I'm
[00:11:26] killing you. And so I had to learn, but you were able to kind of go like,
[00:11:31] this is bullshit and just walk away without necessarily saying it all the time, but you just
[00:11:36] could. Wow. Yep.
[00:11:39] Yeah. Anyway, so yes. We see this in Tams.
[00:11:42] Personality traits and ones that need or don't need therapy. You as a therapist.
[00:11:48] I loved that scene with the two men.
[00:11:51] The one with the two guys.
[00:11:53] Yeah.
[00:11:54] And here again, like just the best guest stars, because when he's like, oh, like, you know,
[00:12:02] you're going at 1030, like you really need to go like do blood work. And he's like, I'm a doctor.
[00:12:07] And the guy's like, you're a dermatologist.
[00:12:13] And then I love how Bo's like, oh, you're a doctor? Like, I get it, man.
[00:12:17] Yeah.
[00:12:17] My girlfriend's like, you're like, how many times are you having sex a week? And the guy's
[00:12:21] like, the one guy's like three times and the other guy's like three times. And you're
[00:12:25] like, only three times?
[00:12:27] Oh, like, how do you even? Yeah. No, it's, it was very clever. This episode.
[00:12:33] Oh my gosh.
[00:12:34] It is.
[00:12:34] I love the guest stars too. Like you said, like the receptionist was hilarious. What's
[00:12:40] her name?
[00:12:42] She, um, uh, uh, uh, Heffernan. Um, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan. Yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Uh,
[00:12:51] I adore her. She's such a sweetheart.
[00:12:53] I don't know her. I only met her in that context, but she was great.
[00:12:57] I actually don't think I even worked with her on that episode.
[00:13:01] No, you see her body.
[00:13:03] I see it.
[00:13:04] She's dressed like a mermaid.
[00:13:05] I remember that. Yes. So I did briefly meet her, but then I kind of got to know her more
[00:13:10] recently. Um, we went to Winona conventions together and yeah, yeah. And she's such a
[00:13:19] sweetheart. Um, but it was so crazy seeing her and she was great in that part. Like really,
[00:13:27] really nailed that part. Uh, yeah, she's a great actress. She's also in that show sex
[00:13:33] life when she's very funny. Oh, I don't remember her in that. I've seen, I've seen, I think the
[00:13:38] first two, well, it only had two seasons, right?
[00:13:41] It only had two seasons.
[00:13:42] Yeah. No, I'd have to look back to see her, but she was incredible in this part. She just
[00:13:47] had so much energy and, um,
[00:13:51] Yeah. Alex definitely thought it was her off the bat. He was like, it's definitely that girl
[00:13:55] because she's masquerading as being innocent.
[00:14:00] Ooh. Little did he know.
[00:14:03] Right?
[00:14:03] Little did he know.
[00:14:04] Actually, and I didn't even.
[00:14:06] I couldn't remember.
[00:14:08] I didn't remember.
[00:14:09] Yeah.
[00:14:10] It was, well, we'll save it for the, for later in the episode.
[00:14:13] Yes. Yes.
[00:14:14] Um, okay.
[00:14:16] What did I write here?
[00:14:17] Oh, I know.
[00:14:18] Your fight, your fight, which with Lauren, which I thought was very,
[00:14:25] very well done.
[00:14:27] Um, and so when I, when I go in and say like, I'm a doctor, how hard is it?
[00:14:32] That one?
[00:14:32] Yes. And then she's like, you didn't even finish high school or whatever.
[00:14:35] Like it looks easy to say, you didn't finish high school.
[00:14:37] And it was so hurtful.
[00:14:39] And it was one of those things where like, if you have ever been in a romantic relationship,
[00:14:44] you know, the button to push on someone and, and you can say these like cutting things.
[00:14:52] And they're so mean.
[00:14:54] Like if your intention is to hurt someone, you know exactly what to say to hurt them.
[00:14:58] Yes.
[00:14:59] And that was such a mean thing of her to say.
[00:15:01] It was really mean.
[00:15:02] Yeah.
[00:15:03] But that, but we've all done it before.
[00:15:05] We've all said those like horrific things.
[00:15:07] And I thought it was really wonderful too, because I always love how they portrayed your
[00:15:13] relationship with Lauren.
[00:15:14] And so far as like that they went into the complexities of what love is.
[00:15:19] And this was one of the like first times on television, like part of the first wave where
[00:15:27] you got to see the complexities of a relationship between two females, you know?
[00:15:32] And so I really love that we honor it in the same way that we'd honor a relationship between
[00:15:37] a man and a woman.
[00:15:38] And to see like them having that fight where it's like so mean and then making up from
[00:15:44] it after.
[00:15:45] And like, I just, I love that, that it's not all like, oh, look at us just making out
[00:15:49] and it's sun and roses, you know?
[00:15:51] Yeah.
[00:15:52] No, it's, it, it had a, it's really, it's part of the humanity of the show, you know?
[00:15:56] Yes.
[00:15:56] And you guys really committed to that scene and, and it hurt me.
[00:16:00] Like it hurt me when you guys had that fight.
[00:16:02] So that one was really well, really well done.
[00:16:04] It was really well done.
[00:16:05] I know.
[00:16:05] I agree.
[00:16:06] I also, Beau and Dyson, I love the love scene between them because she needs to heal.
[00:16:12] It comes from such a place of need.
[00:16:14] It's like a, it's a physical need.
[00:16:17] It's not the emotional part of, with Dyson, but they, they were so good at in particularly
[00:16:24] in this episode and maybe it'll come later in the season.
[00:16:26] I can't remember, but at, at, at always kind of keeping this, um, the tension on the love
[00:16:32] triangle.
[00:16:33] Yes.
[00:16:34] They were good at that.
[00:16:35] Yeah.
[00:16:35] Like it was not gone.
[00:16:36] Her relationship with Dyson wasn't gone.
[00:16:39] Um, there was still a need there and it still had that tension, but it, it always looked
[00:16:43] a little different, which I thought was really cool.
[00:16:45] It was also funny because at this point out when you and, uh, when Beau and Dyson are having
[00:16:50] sex, Alex was like, this is like watching my parents have sex.
[00:16:57] I love that.
[00:17:00] And he went to the kitchen to get ice cream.
[00:17:02] He's like, I can't do it.
[00:17:05] He's like, I can't do it.
[00:17:11] Um, I remember loving that pink jacket that I wore.
[00:17:16] Oh, it was awesome.
[00:17:17] It was awesome.
[00:17:18] It was awesome.
[00:17:19] There are, I don't always love the jacks that I wear, like the jacket later that I wear.
[00:17:23] That's like the tan jacket or it was a turquoise or something.
[00:17:28] I did.
[00:17:28] It's like that purpley, but this one I loved.
[00:17:31] And I remember walking out the, on the roof, we did all the roof stuff, like from Chris's
[00:17:37] suicide and the rock shop and like to the first scene of the second scene of the show.
[00:17:41] So, yeah.
[00:17:42] On the same day and I remember walking out in that jacket and it was the first time I'd
[00:17:45] worn it.
[00:17:45] I was like, I love this outfit.
[00:17:46] It was awesome.
[00:17:47] I can remember that.
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[00:18:18] I love, we're jumping all over the place in the episode, but I love Tamsen at the end
[00:18:22] when she's like, you know, she's got to fight this thing.
[00:18:24] We only see it as a shadow.
[00:18:26] That's all you need.
[00:18:26] You don't need to see the actual creature.
[00:18:28] Thank goodness.
[00:18:29] Yeah, thank goodness.
[00:18:30] Because the CGI of that creature at the beginning was horrifying.
[00:18:33] It was so bad.
[00:18:35] Yes.
[00:18:36] Well, okay.
[00:18:37] So, okay.
[00:18:37] This is what I remember.
[00:18:39] So it was the cat, right?
[00:18:41] That was the Rakshasa.
[00:18:43] Yes.
[00:18:43] It's the cat.
[00:18:44] Yes.
[00:18:45] I love how Lauren's got like three pictures with scratches.
[00:18:47] Like, look what I found.
[00:18:48] It's like, you should have found this like right off the bat.
[00:18:52] Bleeding.
[00:18:53] Yeah.
[00:18:54] Crack those books.
[00:18:55] Oh yeah.
[00:18:56] It's still bleeding.
[00:18:56] Bleeding.
[00:18:57] Um, so I remember filming with the cat.
[00:19:00] Do you remember this?
[00:19:01] No.
[00:19:02] We had two, we had two cats.
[00:19:03] Mm-hmm.
[00:19:04] We had the hero cat and we had a backup cat.
[00:19:07] Okay.
[00:19:08] Who's still trying to break into show business.
[00:19:12] That poor, that poor cat.
[00:19:13] Poor backup cat.
[00:19:16] Um, and the first cat just got, you know, he was robbing stores and just had a terrible time
[00:19:22] because he was a child.
[00:19:24] Child star.
[00:19:25] He was a child feline actor.
[00:19:27] Feline actor.
[00:19:29] Um, no, but what happened was, so we had this hero cat, which ended up doing the job, but
[00:19:34] the, the roof was so hot.
[00:19:36] It was so hot that day.
[00:19:38] Do you remember?
[00:19:39] And the roof was black tar.
[00:19:41] So then they go to put the cat on the roof and then they have to run away from the cat to
[00:19:47] film it.
[00:19:48] Well, the cat didn't want to stay there because it was so hot.
[00:19:51] So then Chris Binney and Chris Binney was our first AD.
[00:19:54] And for everyone listening to first AD is first assistant director.
[00:19:57] It's probably the loudest voice you hear on set.
[00:19:59] Um, although Chris Binney was the most lovely first AD that he had a gentle voice, but you
[00:20:04] heard his voice more than any, they're the one like calling all the shots.
[00:20:07] Like this department's doing this, this person's doing this.
[00:20:10] They're there to kind of be the assistant to the director, but make everything happen.
[00:20:14] Yeah.
[00:20:15] Because the director's only come in, you know, they'll just come in for an episode,
[00:20:18] but the first assistant director is consistently there all the time.
[00:20:21] So like really knows what's up.
[00:20:23] Yeah.
[00:20:23] And there tends to be two first ADs because one will be in prep with the next director
[00:20:27] and they're kind of rotating back and forth.
[00:20:29] But for this episode, we had Chris Binney and I remember him being like,
[00:20:33] like he was on the walk.
[00:20:34] He's like, yeah, the cat won't stay on the roof.
[00:20:36] Okay.
[00:20:37] So, uh,
[00:20:37] like also this poor cat.
[00:20:40] This poor cat.
[00:20:41] So then they decided to put ice packs on the roof.
[00:20:43] So then they put ice packs on the roof to cool that section of the roof down.
[00:20:47] Yeah.
[00:20:48] And then they were going to move the ice packs, put the cat down, get the shot and be done.
[00:20:53] So the ice packs are down, but it's taking a long time to cool the roof.
[00:20:57] Right.
[00:20:57] So Chris Binney is getting, cause they're always worried about time.
[00:20:59] First ADs are always worried about time.
[00:21:01] And so he was like, can we put the cat on the ice bags and then CGI them out?
[00:21:06] I need to find out.
[00:21:07] And I looked at him, I was like, Chris, do you, have you ever had a cat?
[00:21:11] Do you think that cat's going to stand on bags of frozen ice?
[00:21:15] How did they even train a cat in the first place?
[00:21:17] Like cats are, well, no, I shouldn't say that because Holly, who a lot of you guys who are
[00:21:23] listening, you'll know Holly Evans.
[00:21:24] Yeah.
[00:21:24] She's a lovely Comic-Con agent and dear friend, but she.
[00:21:29] And lover of cats.
[00:21:30] Yes.
[00:21:30] And she trains her cats.
[00:21:32] They do stuff.
[00:21:33] They'll ring a bell and they'll do jumps and stuff.
[00:21:36] But I mean, otherwise cats are virtually impossible to train.
[00:21:40] They're a nightmare.
[00:21:41] She's like the only one I've ever met.
[00:21:43] And my dad trained our cat to fetch, but that's it.
[00:21:45] But also like, how do you train a cat to like be on a hot tin roof on a hot tin roof?
[00:21:52] How do you train them to be on that hot tar roof around a crowd and a film crew?
[00:21:58] Whatever.
[00:21:58] No.
[00:21:59] So we had to wait.
[00:22:00] Why didn't they just put down something else?
[00:22:02] They did.
[00:22:02] They moved the ice packs.
[00:22:03] It was cool enough.
[00:22:04] They got the cat there.
[00:22:05] The wrangler was there.
[00:22:06] They like, they rolled.
[00:22:07] And then I remember like the wrangler just backed up and the cat's like looking at the wrangler
[00:22:10] and they got the shot and that was it.
[00:22:12] But it was just so funny.
[00:22:13] I remember trying to figure out how to get that cat to stand still for like just three
[00:22:16] seconds so they could get the shot.
[00:22:19] I also remember filming that day.
[00:22:21] Oh, this is what I was going to say though.
[00:22:23] When, when Tamsin, when the creature and you're like, I got this, you like open your jacket
[00:22:28] and pull out these weapons.
[00:22:29] I remember we were all standing there while you were throwing that.
[00:22:31] Because we all had to kind of depth.
[00:22:33] Because we didn't know where it was going to end up.
[00:22:35] I remember this.
[00:22:36] They were too light.
[00:22:37] What?
[00:22:38] Weren't they too light, those weapons?
[00:22:40] Yes.
[00:22:40] So yeah.
[00:22:41] Okay.
[00:22:41] So every time you have a weapon, this doesn't matter like what it is.
[00:22:44] They have a stunt version and they have like a real version.
[00:22:48] So the real version of that would have been like an actual metal one.
[00:22:52] Yeah.
[00:22:53] When it's close up with the camera, it looks sharp and menacing and shiny and whatever.
[00:23:01] Then when you go to throw it anywhere, which like I understand they don't want me throwing
[00:23:06] a sharp metal object, but rather than giving me like a plastic one or something, it was like
[00:23:12] basically paper foam.
[00:23:14] It was so light.
[00:23:16] So every time I went to throw it, it was like throwing a paper airplane and it would go off
[00:23:23] the roof.
[00:23:24] It never went with it.
[00:23:25] And they were also like, we need it in this specific spot for the Rakshasa, which of course
[00:23:30] isn't there.
[00:23:32] And so it's like this little tiny dot.
[00:23:35] And I'm trying to throw, like I'm not kidding you, a piece of paper.
[00:23:38] And just, I just remember being so frustrated, like in a funny way.
[00:23:43] Cause you guys were laughing at me, but like, yeah.
[00:23:47] I love Tamsin's line and your delivery of it at the end.
[00:23:50] Like let's get tanked.
[00:23:54] That's, that's the only thing.
[00:23:55] And I remember having this qualm in an earlier season of Lost Girl.
[00:23:59] And I don't know if it's so much like the time that we filmed it or just what our budget
[00:24:04] was, but some of the CGI is like, is not good.
[00:24:08] Some of it is like actually pretty good.
[00:24:10] Yeah.
[00:24:11] The Rakshasa one was.
[00:24:14] Why don't I remember?
[00:24:15] Do you mean like the shadow of it?
[00:24:17] No, no, no, no.
[00:24:17] But first as it's a cat.
[00:24:19] Yeah.
[00:24:20] It's a cat.
[00:24:21] And then it morphs into this kind of like demon cat face.
[00:24:24] Yeah.
[00:24:25] And then you see from behind the back.
[00:24:28] Oh, right.
[00:24:28] Yes.
[00:24:29] And then you see the shadow.
[00:24:30] Then you see the shadow.
[00:24:32] And that's no shade by the way, to the CGI people, because typically it is a budgetary
[00:24:39] restriction.
[00:24:39] Absolutely.
[00:24:40] Absolutely.
[00:24:41] And we can't do, you know, but yeah, I don't know.
[00:24:45] I'd be curious if anyone else who's rewatching it felt that way.
[00:24:49] That was the only thing that took me out of this episode.
[00:24:51] Right.
[00:24:54] But.
[00:24:55] Okay.
[00:24:56] I loved Chris.
[00:24:57] So like when he was just like high on life, like I love seeing that side of Chris of like,
[00:25:04] you know,
[00:25:05] The therapist.
[00:25:06] Cause like,
[00:25:06] Yeah.
[00:25:07] And I have the knife to Zoe's neck.
[00:25:09] I actually didn't remember at that point who the Rakshasa was.
[00:25:14] Yeah.
[00:25:14] And, um, and I, uh, I loved the doctor when he's like, you guys are questioning him.
[00:25:24] He's like, I just don't understand.
[00:25:26] Like I'm a really bad doctor.
[00:25:27] Like he got like his certification online.
[00:25:29] He's like, my patients keep killing themselves.
[00:25:33] Actually.
[00:25:34] I love that.
[00:25:34] That was, I know that was Bo and Tamsin's first scene together interrogating someone.
[00:25:41] Oh yeah.
[00:25:41] Which became our like jam going forward.
[00:25:44] Became our jam.
[00:25:44] And, um, but I loved that they, like, they kind of are able to put aside any stuff that's
[00:25:51] going on with them.
[00:25:51] Cause they're both investigative minded, investigatively minded at this point and coming together with
[00:25:59] this interrogation.
[00:26:00] So I thought that was, I mean, that was just fun to see because that's kind of telling of
[00:26:05] more to come.
[00:26:06] Yeah.
[00:26:07] Let me see here.
[00:26:08] I wrote here, Chris on the roof takes his shirt off again.
[00:26:11] LOL.
[00:26:14] We should do a season three drinking game of Chris's shirts coming off.
[00:26:17] I know.
[00:26:18] But I also laughed when he said about being a Griffin, you know, because if anyone knows
[00:26:23] Chris, he's actually like super geeky and he's super geeky.
[00:26:26] Dungeons and Dragons.
[00:26:27] Dungeons and Dragons.
[00:26:28] Yeah.
[00:26:29] Video games.
[00:26:30] Folklore.
[00:26:31] Books about, yeah.
[00:26:32] Totally.
[00:26:33] I was like, Chris is frothing right now saying this, like this was his job.
[00:26:38] That's a dream.
[00:26:38] Yeah.
[00:26:39] He actually may jump from the roof just out of sheer joy.
[00:26:46] So you and him flirting at the end of that scene episode, you're in the bar, right?
[00:26:53] Yeah.
[00:26:54] When they're still, this is what I mean by they're still trying to.
[00:26:56] So, so, so, so at this point they're still trying to.
[00:27:00] Yeah.
[00:27:01] I think that they wanted, I think the initial idea was to have for Bo to again, push that
[00:27:08] love triangle forward.
[00:27:09] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:10] She obviously wants to be with Lauren, but no one likes to see their ex with someone
[00:27:15] cool, you know?
[00:27:17] Right.
[00:27:17] Or cooler than them or as cool as them.
[00:27:19] And I think the idea was to bring in someone who was her equal, Bo's equal, who was then
[00:27:25] going to be with Dyson and that annoys you and is difficult for you.
[00:27:30] And, but then also like the tension between them because he's still, is he still in love
[00:27:36] with you?
[00:27:36] And I think that was the initial plan.
[00:27:39] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:39] But yeah, I mean, I feel.
[00:27:41] That's why casting you was so brilliant though, because she has to be more than just pretty.
[00:27:47] You know what I mean?
[00:27:48] Like Tamsin had.
[00:27:49] She had a lot of loss to her.
[00:27:50] She had to have, she had to have a full sense of who she is.
[00:27:53] For sure.
[00:27:54] To be a threat.
[00:27:54] I think like rewatching it, Chris and I do have chemistry, but it's not, and I don't know,
[00:28:03] maybe I'm biased.
[00:28:04] So again, I'd be really curious to know what you guys listening think.
[00:28:08] Like, does it play as a romantic chemistry?
[00:28:11] I mean, nothing compares to your chemistry with Zoe, but like there's that palpable romantic
[00:28:19] chemistry between the two of you.
[00:28:20] And even actually in the next episode, I, it's so funny because it doesn't happen for
[00:28:25] a long time, but you start to see that between Kenzie and Hale.
[00:28:29] Um, there's this like palpable romantic chemistry and yeah.
[00:28:34] And I just don't think I had it with Chris.
[00:28:37] I mean, I think it reads that you do.
[00:28:40] Interesting.
[00:28:41] So I'm curious to know what other, I mean, yeah, I know you both personally now.
[00:28:44] And I mean, I knew Chris really well at that point.
[00:28:48] Um, now I, I wouldn't be able to see it as much.
[00:28:53] I mean, but I can see it on screen.
[00:28:55] I don't see it in life.
[00:28:56] Obviously you and Chris, whenever you're together.
[00:28:59] Well, it can't have just been me though, because they obviously scrapped the, I mean, Chris and
[00:29:04] I chemistry read together.
[00:29:05] Like we had a romantic chemistry read.
[00:29:08] So I know that that was their intention to have us be lovers, but that went down the
[00:29:13] tubes within this season.
[00:29:18] Well, I think, let us know what you, everyone listening, if you thought the chemistry was
[00:29:22] there.
[00:29:22] I think it was, I don't think it would, there was, it was lacking.
[00:29:25] I mean, the chemistry is a funny thing.
[00:29:28] Incredibly beautiful in this show though, by the way, like as I'm watching it back.
[00:29:32] Yes.
[00:29:33] I'm just like, damn, like he's very handsome dude.
[00:29:37] So it wasn't for lack of that.
[00:29:39] It was more just that.
[00:29:40] Yeah.
[00:29:41] I was, I was like, oh, weird.
[00:29:43] You're me in a man form.
[00:29:47] Maybe that was the issue.
[00:29:49] Maybe that was the issue.
[00:29:51] Um, no, he's, I mean, he looks incredible.
[00:29:53] I remember after the first few seasons, some of my friends would be like, oh my God, like,
[00:29:57] what's it like to work with Chris Holden Reed?
[00:29:59] And I'd be like, huh?
[00:30:00] Like to work with Chris Martin.
[00:30:02] And from Coldplay.
[00:30:03] And I'd be like, hmm, that used to happen to Chris all the time.
[00:30:07] He told me once a story that someone thought he was Chris Martin from Coldplay.
[00:30:12] Like he was like a fan of Coldplay when they were in Toronto doing a show.
[00:30:15] Right.
[00:30:16] And he was like, I just didn't have the heart to tell her that I wasn't Chris Martin.
[00:30:20] So he like took pictures with them and stuff.
[00:30:24] And I thought like, honestly, you, you might not know.
[00:30:29] Like all these years later, that, that chick and all her friends.
[00:30:33] Until now.
[00:30:33] I think that she exposed it on the Lost Girl Rewatch podcast.
[00:30:37] She's listening.
[00:30:37] She's not a fan of Lost Girl.
[00:30:39] She's a fan of Coldplay.
[00:30:39] She's probably not listening to this podcast.
[00:30:40] Maybe she's like, I can't believe Chris Martin was on this sci-fi show and I didn't even realize.
[00:30:48] He changed his name to Holden Reed and spells it with a K, but it doesn't matter.
[00:30:52] It's him.
[00:30:53] I know.
[00:30:54] I know.
[00:30:54] But I thought that was so funny that there's just these photos out there somewhere.
[00:30:59] Like multiple photos.
[00:31:01] There's photos of me somewhere as Mary Louise Parker.
[00:31:04] I think I told you that story.
[00:31:06] You do actually look like her.
[00:31:07] Oh my God.
[00:31:08] I took photos with this guy because he wanted to show his girlfriend.
[00:31:10] I was like, I'm not her.
[00:31:11] He's like, it doesn't matter.
[00:31:12] It doesn't matter.
[00:31:12] Come here.
[00:31:13] So then I'm like.
[00:31:15] What's this guy?
[00:31:16] I don't like what kind of matters.
[00:31:17] It's funny because it's like the Chris Martin thing doesn't matter because he's a musician,
[00:31:21] right?
[00:31:22] But it's particularly stinging as an actor when someone's like, oh my gosh, it's so and so.
[00:31:26] And you're like, oh cool.
[00:31:28] Yeah.
[00:31:28] I'm also an actor.
[00:31:29] And they're like, no, don't care.
[00:31:31] Yeah.
[00:31:31] Yeah.
[00:31:32] Like we don't care about that.
[00:31:33] We want to know.
[00:31:34] It was ever since Weeds came out.
[00:31:36] Oh yeah.
[00:31:37] No, I know.
[00:31:37] Yeah.
[00:31:38] It was Weeds.
[00:31:39] Yeah.
[00:31:40] Anyway.
[00:31:41] Mary Louise.
[00:31:42] Mary Louise.
[00:31:43] We should be sisters.
[00:31:44] Sisters and something.
[00:31:45] I'm trying to think of anything else.
[00:31:46] At the very end, a story point here is like Kenzie's arm, right?
[00:31:51] It's so gross.
[00:31:52] I forgot how gross it was going to look.
[00:31:53] She pulls it off and it's like dirty.
[00:31:55] It's so like sticky.
[00:31:56] That was actually very well done on makeup.
[00:31:57] Yeah.
[00:31:58] It was super gross.
[00:31:59] Way to end up.
[00:32:00] That would have been.
[00:32:00] Yeah, that's right.
[00:32:01] And the big cliffhanger at the end.
[00:32:02] Yeah.
[00:32:02] So she goes missing.
[00:32:04] Now, I don't remember what happens in episode five.
[00:32:06] I have not watched it yet.
[00:32:08] So I will be watching it, obviously, before we do the next podcast.
[00:32:11] I did watch it.
[00:32:12] You went ahead.
[00:32:13] Yeah.
[00:32:14] I'm not going to spoil it for anyone.
[00:32:16] But I will say what happens to Kenzie, as I was watching the episode, because Alex also
[00:32:25] watched that one with me, he caught on faster than I did.
[00:32:31] Okay.
[00:32:31] All right.
[00:32:33] I do one more little thing about this episode, though.
[00:32:36] When Bo gets hit by the car, I love how the guy gets out.
[00:32:39] He's like, he's just supposed to look like he wouldn't give him a line, the poor guy.
[00:32:42] They just made him look like, are you okay?
[00:32:43] And she's like, I'm good.
[00:32:44] I'm good.
[00:32:45] And he's like, okay, sure.
[00:32:46] I'll go.
[00:32:46] I mean, he just drives off.
[00:32:47] Yeah.
[00:32:47] What an irresponsible citizen that man is.
[00:32:49] Anyway, so I did not get hit by a car because even if I could take that kind of a stunt,
[00:32:59] they're not going to hit their lead actors with a car.
[00:33:01] So that was my double.
[00:33:03] It was Jen, I believe, that did the car hit.
[00:33:06] But I was watching it, like watching that set up and watching it be done.
[00:33:10] And there was a stunt guy with me who was telling me how to get hit by a car, like how to get
[00:33:14] hit by a car in a stunt.
[00:33:15] So I was like, huh.
[00:33:16] And I've always remembered this.
[00:33:17] Now, please seek professional advice before trying this.
[00:33:23] But what you're supposed to do is as the car is coming, as soon as it is about to make contact
[00:33:29] with you, you jump so that you're going to control the kind of angle that you're going
[00:33:34] to fall instead of it crushing you.
[00:33:36] So you're supposed to jump.
[00:33:38] So I've always thought if I'm on Ventura and a car's barreling towards me, God forbid,
[00:33:45] I'll jump.
[00:33:47] If it doesn't work, I'm hunting that guy down.
[00:33:50] I'm sure that's what you're going to be thinking about as a car.
[00:33:53] I mean, it's my only thing I know about if you're going to get hit by a car is to jump.
[00:33:58] So that's some advice.
[00:34:00] But again, seek from your own professional stunt person.
[00:34:05] The guy who plays, like he thinks he's a superhero, he thinks he can stop the car with
[00:34:10] his hand.
[00:34:11] And he's so funny when he's at the car.
[00:34:12] He's like, I know.
[00:34:14] I know.
[00:34:14] He was so sweet.
[00:34:16] He's lifting the coffee table.
[00:34:17] But his physical acting in that show was really well done.
[00:34:20] It was really good.
[00:34:20] I love how I breathe in his face and then faint on him.
[00:34:24] And I thought, this guest star just walked in and this weird actress is breathing in
[00:34:28] his face and landing on him.
[00:34:30] Like, what is happening?
[00:34:31] It must be so weird.
[00:34:32] You did that a lot.
[00:34:32] You did that a lot.
[00:34:33] Yeah.
[00:34:35] Anyway, that's kind of where we're at with this.
[00:34:37] I enjoyed this episode.
[00:34:38] I thought it was fun.
[00:34:39] I thought there was a lot of fun elements to it.
[00:34:42] And it advanced some storylines.
[00:34:44] And you get to see Bo and Tamsin starting their interrogations together, which is a good
[00:34:50] place to make a turn in this relationship.
[00:34:55] Yes.
[00:34:56] Yes, it is.
[00:34:57] I mean, it still hasn't done an about face.
[00:35:00] That's for sure.
[00:35:01] No.
[00:35:01] No.
[00:35:02] As we will see in the next episode, which you are welcome to join us for next week.
[00:35:09] But thank you guys for listening to this episode of the Lost Girl Rewatch Podcast.
[00:35:15] Yes.
[00:35:15] And we will see you guys on the next one.
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